Russian Culture

I just got back from russia the other day, but i have to go back on saturday.. :lol:

so, i was thinking, there are many cultural things that i am probably not picking up because i wasnt born there. Like here we hold doors open for ladies and it is impolite to point.

what i want to know is what are some differences that i could be doing wrong and not noticing it. I know i would cross my arms while waiting for a crosswalk and people looked at me weirdly... (is this a cultural thing?)

thanks for the help! :wink:

P.S. Russia is CrAzY!!!!!!!!!

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Like here we hold doors open for ladies and it is impolite to point.

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The same in Russia.

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Originally Posted by Zaya

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Like here we hold doors open for ladies and it is impolite to point.

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The same in Russia.

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:| then russians must not be good at following their customs. because my mother and cousin always got the door slammed in their faces by men. :?

and any others? what about the arm crossing?

Undoubtedly, those men have bad manners.

ok... makes sense now.

but what are others?! I dont want to break some big custom when i go back on saturday! :o

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Originally Posted by giovanni

what i want to know is what are some differences that i could be doing wrong and not noticing it.

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Most Westerners talk too loudly in public, and (in Russian eyes, at least) make spectacles of themselves. You might have been doing that, I don't know.

It might seem odd, but smiling at strangers is not well received. Smile in public, without a "proper" reason (e.g. talking with friends), and you're likely to be taken for an idiot and/or a foreigner.

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I know i would cross my arms

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In which way? :lol:

...like he's hiding something. :)

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Originally Posted by xRoosterx

...like he's hiding something. :)

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That's not good. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Matroskin Kot

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Originally Posted by giovanni

what i want to know is what are some differences that i could be doing wrong and not noticing it.

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Most Westerners talk too loudly in public, and (in Russian eyes, at least) make spectacles of themselves. You might have been doing that, I don't know.

It might seem odd, but smiling at strangers is not well received. Smile in public, without a "proper" reason (e.g. talking with friends), and you're likely to be taken for an idiot and/or a foreigner.

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ehh, i was not for sure. but i know my mother and cousin were. I knew this to an extent before i left, because my friends are all russians. I think i have the russian mentality down, but the language isnt coming great yet. :|

and yeah, someone told me that quote. She said "to smile without reason is to show foolishness." which basically sums up russians. But my other FAVORITE thing someone said to me was "russia is the only country where you can get hit in the rear bumper while driving on the wrong side of the road." :lol:

and any others?

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Originally Posted by Zaya

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I know i would cross my arms

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In which way? :lol:

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um... like having your arms crossed across your chest? i dont know how to explain that really... but like you do it when you are cold?

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Originally Posted by Zaya

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Like here we hold doors open for ladies and it is impolite to point.

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The same in Russia.

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True. Some people, of course, don't do that, but it's percieved as bad manners.
I'd like to point, though, that most natives here don't OPEN doors to the strangers (unless you carry smth heavy or have a baby), but it's considered polite to hold the door a little until the next person go through, slaming the door into other person's face is considered very rude (as well as banging the door loudly).

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I know i would cross my arms while waiting for a crosswalk and people looked at me weirdly... (is this a cultural thing?)

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Crossing the arms isn't actually offensive, so there isn't anything majorly wrong with that. But like many gestures it has slight culture differences in use.
In Russia it's mostly a sign of impatience, irritation or stubborness. So while other people waiting for a crosswalk were relaxed or bored, your sudden gesture might make them think that you're in the bad mood or they irritate you somehow. Hence the weird glances.

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Crossing the arms isn't actually offensive, so there isn't anything majorly wrong with that. But like many gestures it has slight culture differences in use.
In Russia it's mostly a sign of impatience, irritation or stubborness. So while other people waiting for a crosswalk were relaxed or bored, your sudden gesture might make them think that you're in the bad mood or they irritate you somehow. Hence the weird glances.

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that makes alot of sense! thanks! even though russians do irritate me, i guess ill stop being so impacient at those cross walks. :wink:

and on a completely different side note... what vodka do russians drink? Last week the only types of vodka i had tasted like rubbing alchohol but a very thick syrup like texture.... is this what it is all like? What is your favorite brand/s?

(i dont want to make the same mistake of wasting money on bad vodka next week... :wall: )

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Originally Posted by giovanni

that makes alot of sense! thanks!

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You're welcome. ;)

I remembered a few things that irritated me somewhat about the foreigners I knew (I'm not saying you do such things, I don't even know whether these habits were based on cultural differences or they were just the habits of the persons in question). In Russia it's considered impolite.

- sneezing/blowing your nose VERY LOUDLY, especially at the dinner table (most Russians try to do these things as quite as possible);
- yawning or coughing without covering your mouth.

Русский Стандарт!

If you get that vodka everyone will want to... well, It's good vodka!

I used to buy my "vodka" in two liter bottles (reused soft drink bottles) from this guy I knew. I think I paid him $2 a bottle. He had a good reputation, so I wasn't worried about going blind from drinking it. It was good stuff! Not quite as clean tasting as store brand vodka like Nemirov, but it had a nice flavor. Can't beat the price, either.

I don't actually recommend this to anyone unless you know what you are doing, and even then be cautious. :)

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Originally Posted by Matroskin Kot

I used to buy my "vodka" in two liter bottles (reused soft drink bottles) from this guy I knew. I think I paid him $2 a bottle. He had a good reputation, so I wasn't worried about going blind from drinking it. It was good stuff! Not quite as clean tasting as store brand vodka like Nemirov, but it had a nice flavor. Can't beat the price, either.

I don't actually recommend this to anyone unless you know what you are doing, and even then be cautious. :)

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did it have a good taste? I NEED a different vodka. I want something thats smooth, and doesnt taste like rubbing alchohol. Not like a syrup either. Should i drop more money on vodka? or is there some magic brand i am missing?

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Originally Posted by giovanni

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Originally Posted by Matroskin Kot

I used to buy my "vodka" in two liter bottles (reused soft drink bottles) from this guy I knew. I think I paid him $2 a bottle. He had a good reputation, so I wasn't worried about going blind from drinking it. It was good stuff! Not quite as clean tasting as store brand vodka like Nemirov, but it had a nice flavor. Can't beat the price, either.

I don't actually recommend this to anyone unless you know what you are doing, and even then be cautious. :)

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did it have a good taste? I NEED a different vodka. I want something thats smooth, and doesnt taste like rubbing alchohol. Not like a syrup either. Should i drop more money on vodka? or is there some magic brand i am missing?

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Maybe you just don't like Russian vodka. If you like brandy, any of the cognacs sold in shops are pretty good.

I don't know how someone can possibly not like Russian vodka.

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Originally Posted by xRoosterx

I don't know how someone can possibly not like Russian vodka.

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i think you are right there... :thumbs:

i think i figured out the problem. I need to stray away from 5 dollar bottles and go to more expensive stuff. it is what one friend told me... can anyone back that up?

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Originally Posted by giovanni

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Originally Posted by xRoosterx

I don't know how someone can possibly not like Russian vodka.

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i think you are right there... :thumbs:

i think i figured out the problem. I need to stray away from 5 dollar bottles and go to more expensive stuff. it is what one friend told me... can anyone back that up?

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Yes! Get Русский стандарт! Its like 10 dollars a bottle (or something). Not very expensive but in Russia its like "grey goose" to us. Pretty damn fancy. The difference between grey goose and РС is that РС doesnt taste like poo poo.

there are all sorts of different, exotic russkie standarts too, dunno if you'll find them all outside of the motherland tho

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Originally Posted by Lt. Columbo

there are all sorts of different, exotic russkie standarts too, dunno if you'll find them all outside of the motherland tho

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i think im going to try this rooski standart then... thanks!

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Originally Posted by xRoosterx

I don't know how someone can possibly not like Russian vodka.

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Somehow.
Сейчас мне снова напомнят о том, что я девушка.))

ok... last question i think, as i leave tomorrow! :o

if i buy a cell phone in russia, will it work in another country? I am moving to brasil next year... and it would help alot if i knew that a phone from russia would work there. I'm debating buying a phone for russia because i dont know how much ill use it....

thanks!

First of all, it depends on mobile phone standard.
Sometimes there is a good discount on cellular phones, but you can use SIM cards of only one mobile network operator. Of course, there are people who unlock such phones, but it's illegal and you cannot be sure that the phone will be ok after it. So make sure you are not buying a locked phone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_lock

Please, correct my mistakes.

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Originally Posted by Zaya

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Originally Posted by xRoosterx

I don't know how someone can possibly not like Russian vodka.

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Somehow.
Сейчас мне снова напомнят о том, что я девушка.))

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О, но только это дело твое. По-моему, род не играет роли к животу.

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Originally Posted by xRoosterx

По-моему, род не играет роли к животу.

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К животу? Ну не скажите, не скажите... :lol:

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Originally Posted by xRoosterx

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Originally Posted by Zaya

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Originally Posted by xRoosterx

I don't know how someone can possibly not like Russian vodka.

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Somehow.
Сейчас мне снова напомнят о том, что я девушка.))

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О, но это только твоё дело. По-моему, пол не имеет отношения к вкусовым пристрастиям.

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Последняя фраза очень заковыристая, в моём стиле. :lol: Но думать о том, как это сказать попроще, мне не хочется.
Ну, можно ещё сказать "По-моему, пол здесь роли не играет".

Род — это грамматическая категория. В любом случае, когда говорят о людях, используют слово "пол". :wink:

Я тебя благодарю еще раз, Зая! Хорошо сказано. Поистине, ты - девушка со вкусом. :)

Ой. (покраснела)
Спасибо за комплимент.

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Originally Posted by xRoosterx

По-моему, род не играет роли к животу.

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Таки играет, воистину. =)

ok... that was well and good, but i still have my problem.

are most phones in russia locked?

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Originally Posted by giovanni

are most phones in russia locked?

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:o
I don't think so. It was just FYI. :D

great! thanks. Ill just have to ask when i buy it wont i?

thanks for the help?

(and how do you ask if the phone is locked or not?) :o

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Originally Posted by giovanni

ok... that was well and good, but i still have my problem.
are most phones in russia locked?

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No. All are unlocked, except those imported as 'locked' and are unlocked here. Even if you buy a phone with a contract in carrier's office it is unlocked.