An Introduction and a Question

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I have scarcely spoken it for the past eight years

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Well, you have been a bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad girl, now haven't you!...........Well, fortunately for you, you have come to the right place. Perhaps if you lucky you and I will both spanked by Olga, who fixes all of our mistakes here.

Welcome to this place called Master Russian. There is none like it!

Добро пожаловать, Настенька!
Не унывай! Если ты хочешь улучшить свой русский, мы тебе поможем в этом с удовольствием. Читай, пиши, слушай песни и... приходи сюда. Главное - желание, и твой русский к тебе обязательно вернётся.

Welcome. You'll be speaking Russian in no time at all just as soon as you begin to visit this forum and speak with us. :)

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I have often been considered less than a "real Russian" by those who have emigrated to America because I do not speak the language as well as they, or because I travelled often while young and did not get the "full" experience of living there.

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Personally, I distinguish two kinds of emigrants - those, who emigrated out of their own free will and those who emigrated in childhood with their parents. I don't care much for the first but perfectly loyal to the second. (Of course that's my personal opinion on the matter).

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basically if I am not 100% fluent in the Russian language and know every small bit of Russian pop culture

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You didn't miss a thing... believe me. Actually you may consider yourself lucky because of that. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Ramil

Personally, I distinguish two kinds of emigrants - those, who emigrated out of their own free will and those who emigrated in childhood with their parents. I don't care much for the first but perfectly loyal to the second. (Of course that's my personal opinion on the matter).

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Clearly, I am the one who's been a very bad boy. :lol: Well, I have an excuse, for what it's worth, my ancestors were from Germany and France.

Welcome to the forum, Nastya, and don't worry about the fact that you have emigrated, as you are not the only evil person around here. We don't ask for "прописка".

Of course I am not Russian, but if you feel at heart Russian and you understand Russia, you understand the people, you feel the language, and you can tell a Russian from a Pole at a mile's distance, then you are Russian. Of course, it is hard to do all this if you don't live in Russia. We foreigners can only hope... :lol:

Oh, and it is important to have watched "Ирония судьбы" at least 10 times.

Добро пожаловать, Анастасия.

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I don't care much for the first but I'm perfectly loyal to the second.

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Originally Posted by basurero

Добро пожаловать, Анастасия.

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I don't care much for the first but I'm perfectly loyal to the second.

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Is it really necessary to insert extra pronouns in cases like that? That redundance of the English language has always amazed me and amazes still :)

But we don't have 2397 conjugations for each verb!.


Anyway your eyeball is freaking me out!

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Originally Posted by DDT

Anyway your eyeball is freaking me out!

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To stop blinking you can click on "Stop" - little red cross.

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Originally Posted by Ramil

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Originally Posted by basurero

Добро пожаловать, Анастасия.

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I don't care much for the first but I'm perfectly loyal to the second.

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Is it really necessary to insert extra pronouns in cases like that? That redundance of the English language has always amazed me and amazes still :)

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You could have missed the pronoun I, but the verb 'to be' is necessary:

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I don't care much for the first but am perfectly loyal to the second.

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Originally Posted by nikolaevna

My question is for those Russians here: do you consider some Russian emigres "more Russian" than others? I have often been considered less than a "real Russian" by those who have emigrated to America because I do not speak the language as well as they, or because I travelled often while young and did not get the "full" experience of living there. I certainly do consider myself a Russian and they say it does not matter where I was born or what my ethnicity is -- basically if I am not 100% fluent in the Russian language and know every small bit of Russian pop culture (while living in America!) I might as well have been born here. I find myself very sad because of it and have had difficulty befriending some Russians and Ukrainians for it. (Of course, there have been twice as many who have become wonderful friends!)

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Well, not to offend you but yes, of course it makes people like you less Russians. Since you don't remember the language(which already means a lot) and not familiar with Russian life too much, what do you expect of this people to think of you?

So welcome to MR and I hope you will fix this problem soon. :)

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Originally Posted by DDT

But we don't have 2397 conjugations for each verb!.

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Зато у нас нет идиотских артиклей и всяких "паст пёрфект континиус". Никогда не понимал, почему нельзя всегда использовать "indefinite"? :)

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Originally Posted by Basil77

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Originally Posted by DDT

But we don't have 2397 conjugations for each verb!.

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Зато у нас нет идиотских артиклей и всяких "паст пёрфект континиус". Никогда не понимал, почему нельзя всегда использовать "indefinite"? :)

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А можно и наобороот - всюду использовать континиус. Говорят, что в Индии так любят.
Ну артиклей хватает, особенно нецензурных.
Ну а времена, конечно, почти вымели. Один "Христос воскресе" в аористе и остался, не считая всяких прыг да скок.

А то, что осталось от четырех прошедших времён, так это перфект, с повсеместно опущенной связкой.

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Originally Posted by Wowik

Ну артиклей хватает, особенно нецензурных.

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:o Не знаю, что ты называешь артиклями, но я не могу всмонить в русском языке ничего ни цензурного, ни нецензурного, что бы хоть отдалённо напоминало английские "a" и "the".

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Originally Posted by Basil77

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Originally Posted by Wowik

Ну артиклей хватает, особенно нецензурных.

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:o Не знаю, что ты называешь артиклями, но я не могу всмонить в русском языке ничего ни цензурного, ни нецензурного, что бы хоть отдалённо напоминало английские "a" и "the".

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Кто-то здесь уже говорил, что "а" можно думать как "типа", а дальше не помню, что было на месте "the"... искал пост, но не нашел...

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Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

Кто-то здесь уже говорил, что "а" можно считать как "типа", _ дальше не помню - что было на месте "the"... искал пост, но не нашел...

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"типа" - скорее слэнг. И я бы скорее перевёл это как "like" или "something like", чем "a".

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Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

Кто-то здесь уже говорил, что "а" можно думать как "типа", а дальше не помню, что было на месте "the"... искал пост, но не нашел...

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Kalinka, это шутки были :wink:

да разве!!! :lol: Просто думал, это было то, что Вовчик имел в виду!

Артикли – это такие слова, которые англичане употребляют где-нипопадя в своей речи, делая вид, что они имеют какое-то значение. Некоторые русские вставляют мат точно для таких же целей

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Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

Кто-то здесь уже говорил, что "а" можно думать как "типа", а дальше не помню, что было на месте "the"... искал пост, но не нашел...

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"a" - это "типа"
"the" - это "конкретно"
мне этот анекдот в среднем раз в месяц рассказывают :)