Thread: Inland waterways

While surfing google earth I saw that there are some very large ships in Moscow. Is it possible for them to get to St.Petersburg and out to sea or are they restricted to inland duty?

Originally Posted by Layne

While surfing google earth I saw that there are some very large ships in Moscow. Is it possible for them to get to St.Petersburg and out to sea or are they restricted to inland duty?

I think that it's possible via the rivers and canal system they built. See:
http://smithsonianjourneys.org/cruises_ ... russia.asp

http://www.vikingrivers.com/
ONLY $2500 - $5800 for a week !
Moscow - St Petersburg trip. I get brochures from them every month, looks fun, I'll wait for my next sailboat and go to Euope.

Originally Posted by Layne

While surfing google earth I saw that there are some very large ships in Moscow. Is it possible for them to get to St.Petersburg and out to sea or are they restricted to inland duty?

Spying!

Originally Posted by TATY

Originally Posted by Layne

While surfing google earth I saw that there are some very large ships in Moscow. Is it possible for them to get to St.Petersburg and out to sea or are they restricted to inland duty?

Spying!

Ah, you caught me. By using google's 5 year old pictures, I can count the shipping contianers and predict future millitary activity.

That looks like a fun trip, way to expensive (for me) though. I dream of someday travelling the world in my own boat and I'm just planning places to go.

Originally Posted by Layne

Originally Posted by TATY

Originally Posted by Layne

While surfing google earth I saw that there are some very large ships in Moscow. Is it possible for them to get to St.Petersburg and out to sea or are they restricted to inland duty?

That looks like a fun trip, way to expensive (for me) though. I dream of someday travelling the world in my own boat and I'm just planning places to go.

Keep dreaming or hope for another revolution. As usual, I don't really know anything, but I can only begin to imagine what a complete and total PITA it is get the proper documentation and permits for you, a foreigner, to navigate Russian waterways in your own vessel. Seriously, it's a real PITA just to fly there -- can you think of all the people you'd have to bribe to make your way around -- you'd have the normal visa, of course, but then, probably you'd need a license, and then some sort of registration, and then you'd need to pass some sort of saftey inspection, and of course, you'd have to probably deal with some sort of customs crap -- we wouldn't want you to sell that boat in Russia or something...And then you'd have every Tom,Dick, and Harry (or should I say Ivan, Mikhail, and Dmitri?) cop trying to shake you down for all the rules -- real or imagined -- that you broke.

Originally Posted by Layne

While surfing google earth I saw that there are some very large ships in Moscow. Is it possible for them to get to St.Petersburg and out to sea or are they restricted to inland duty?

Yes. Some of them ( with DWT ~5000 ) can get oup to sea with some restrictions ( not to Atlanctic, of course, but to European ports )

As usual, I don't really know anything, but I can only begin to imagine what a complete and total PITA it is get the proper documentation and permits for you,

Yes. One-time permission for foreign vessel to enter inland waterways is issued only by RF prime minister after other instances give an approvement, that may take up to 4 months. Also you shall have a local pilot on board while you are in the inland waterways.
Actually, for now the only foreign vessels on russians waterways are Iran and Azerbaijan volgo-dons following from caspian to black sea.

Originally Posted by vox05

Yes. One-time permission for foreign vessel to enter inland waterways is issued only by RF prime minister after other instances give an approvement, that may take up to 4 months. Also you shall have a local pilot on board while you are in the inland waterways.
Actually, for now the only foreign vessels on russians waterways are Iran and Azerbaijan volgo-dons following from caspian to black sea.

Yikes. So either Layne better know Fridman personally or think of another idea? I know he just said he's dreaming, but I think if he ever gets serious about it, he should either just do the river cruise, or even maybe just find someone who will rent him a private boat (with its own captain)?

Yes, definatly dreaming. By the time I can actually afford such a boat I'm sure nuclear warfare/global warming will have killed 90% of earth's people and I'll be free to do whatever I want (assuming I live). Which means I should probably think about investing in a nuclear shelter instead of a boat at the present time.

Here's what I know, I check this stuff out. You can get into Russia on a boat (relatively) easy if you hold Merchant Marine papers. Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute ships go there alot, Russian R/Vs visit here. I have always wanted an 'on-board' job, but I get to go to Canadia and Iceland.
I used to live on a sailboat, and have sailed WHOLE East Coast USA and Bahamas, Mexico, Central America. THat said, I know people in the same boat (pun intended) and have met some wealthy people (Malcom Forbes) and not so wealthy people (the French guy that was docked next to me) and read about private boats visiting Russian waters.
My boats get smaller all the time, I doubt getting to Europe is possible in a 19 foot sailboat or a 30 foot lobsterboat now

Keep the dream Layne

Thanks for your encouraging advice. I have read up on getting a job aboard a merchant marine vessel as a mechanic (or engineer or whatever they call it) as I am quite skilled with engines and other mechanical things. But to do so (on a US flagged ship) you must have a 4 year degree from one of only five or six colleges in the US that offer the program. Of course there are unskilled jobs that don't require a degree but they don't pay much.