How The Travel Channel Shows Russia to Americans

This week the Travel Channel aired back-to-back episodes which were filmed in Russia.

One was Anthony Bourdain: No Reservations - To Russia WIth Love (which first aired back on 22 November 2007) and the other was brand new one, Dhani Tackles the Globe – Russia


Anthony Bourdain, is a guys guy. He drinks like a fish, smokes, curses, has tattoos and travels around the world sampling various foods and gets paid for it…cool job! Here are the links to the episode on YouTube from his visit to Russia:

No Reservations - Russia Part 1 of 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKVKlHwwZj0

No Reservations - Russia Part 2 of 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0XnlVGoXDM

No Reservations - Russia Part 3 of 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ1hehK47z4

No Reservations - Russia Part 4 of 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTzTZBczVk8

No Reservations - Russia Part 5 of 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTYpf_9VTRs


Dhani, is Dhani Jones, a 6-foot-1, 235-pound linebacker for the National Football League’s Cincinnati Bengals (he is one big, strong, black dude!). He travels around to a different country and for one week of lessons on a local sport (some culture too) and then competes in a local or regional contest and he aims to win! In Russia it was Sambo.

As it just aired this week, I could only find some behind the scenes clips out on the net:
Behind the Scenes: Dhani Tackles the Globe – Russia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgohmXANkGk

Bourdain is a chef. So is Andrew Zimmern who hosts "Bizarre Foods". He too traveled to Russia and was filmed shopping, dining in St. Pete. and visiting a dacha. A combination episode with both Bourdain and Zimmern was filmed in Brighton Beach, New York. Mostly Russian food due to the high immigrant population there.

Here is part of a blog by Zimmern in Russia:

http://bizarre-blog.travelchannel.com/r ... -of-russia

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Originally Posted by capecoddah

Bourdain is a chef.

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Yes, I should have made that more clear in my introduction of him. Bourdain has written several books and is also the "Chef-at-Large" at Brasserie Les Halles http://www.leshalles.net/

It always makes me smile when someone tries to tell something about Russia to non-Russians... :roll:

It's quite odd that he talked about politics most of the time and not food.

His Russian friend Zamir has quite a following now. After Russia and Uzbekistan, they went to Romania and Zamir went a bit crazy. Zamir has done 4 shows in the US: NYC, Baltimore, Buffalo and Detroit. Tony blogs about Zamir.

http://anthony-bourdain-blog.travelchan ... -with-love

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Originally Posted by capecoddah

His Russian friend Zamir has quite a following now.

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Btw, this Zamir character doesn't look quite Russian, I mean ethnic Russian. He more likely has some Middle Asia roots.

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Originally Posted by Basil77

Btw, this Zamir character doesn't look quite Russian, I mean ethnic Russian. He more likely has some Middle Asia roots.

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See Basil, that is my problem.... even when creating my Dmitri for my book I had no clue how to make him look. How tall, eye color, hair color, cheekbone structure, shoulder width ..... What do "ethnic" Russian's look like?

Basil....If you met me and saw me or heard my voice, you would not know where I was from in America or my heritage for that matter. Just by looking at me, you would never be able to guess where my parents were born and raised or where all four of my grandparents immigrated from (well, one was born in the U.S. but they all immigrated from the same general area of the world).

If you strip away the traditional Russian garments, what is so special about the way ethnic Russians look? I ask this with all sincerity.

A typical Russian guy from Russian fairy tales would have blond-brown or fair hair, blue eyes and turned-up nose. :)

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Originally Posted by rockzmom

If you strip away the traditional Russian garments, what is so special about the way ethnic Russians look?

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If you stripped away the Russian garments, I don't think you'd have to ask that question. :shock: :wink:

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what is so special about the way ethnic Russians look? I ask this with all sincerity.

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Maybe one ore two hundreds years later ethnic features will be eliminated completely, but now they are still exist. Here is some article about this:

Russian scientists have finished the first large-scale research of gene pool of the Russian people. The report on the results of the study is expected to be published soon. The report might bring about dramatic consequences both for Russia and the world order.
It took anthropologists a few decades of painstaking research to come up with the image of a typical Russian. Anthropologists had to use all en-face and half-face photographs of typical representatives of Russian areas of the country available in the Museum of Anthropology. Having been modified using special computer program, the photographs were then juxtaposed by the pupils of the eyes. The final pictures came out pretty blurry yet they could give you an idea how standard Russian people looked like. It was the first truly sensational discovery. Similar study of the French researchers ended in failure. They had to shelve the results of the study since the final photographs of standard Jacques and Marianne would show pasty nondescript faces.

Unfortunately, anthropologists called it a day after building photographic images of typical representative of the Russian population living in different areas of Russia, anthropologists did not juxtapose them one over another for creating the image of an absolute Russian.

Speaking with Vlast magazine, anthropologists first cited a plausible excuse with regard to a “lack of information” required for such kind of work. Finally, they admitted that they could run into trouble with their superiors due to the photograph in question. By the way, “regional” composites of the Russian people were published in scientific publications of limited circulation, they were published by the national press only in 2002.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8692/27827.jpg

Unfortunately, largely monochrome old photographs of the Russian people from the archives are unsuitable for describing the height, build, complexion, color of hair and eyes of the Russian. However, anthropologists made a verbal portrait of a Russian man and a Russian woman. They are said to be brown-haired persons of medium height, their eyes are either grey or blue.

A turned-up nose is absolutely atypical for Eastern Slavs (only 7 percent of Russians and Ukrainians have it). The feature is more typical with Germans (25 percent).
The magazine also publishes a map showing the area where genuinely Russian genes are still preserved. The area's geographic boundaries correspond with those marking the territory of Russia in times of Ivan the Terrible. The findings are manifest evidence proving conditionality of some state borders.

Russian scientists requested that the magazine publish their appeal to the President Putin, Prime Minister Fradkov, and the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation.

According to Dr. Balanovskaya, huge megalopolises are, in fact, the black holes, they suck in the gene pool of the Russian people and destroy it without a trace. “Now we know the boundaries marking areas with villages and small towns where the genuinely Russian genes are still kept intact. But in those areas women tend to give birth to fewer children year in and year out due to lack of money. Given enormous government spending on other needs, target financial aid to those women could save the Russian gene pool from further degradation,” said Dr. Balanovskaya.

Scientists made a complete list of typically Russian surnames by the regions. Central Election Committee and local election committees flatly refused to cooperate with scientists citing secrecy requirements for voters' lists to ensure that an election is fare and square. Scientists used a very flexible criterion for putting a surname on the list. A surname would enter the list if at least five carriers of it would live in the region for three generations.

Top 10 of most popular Russian surnames:

1. Smirnov
2. Ivanov
3. Kuznetsov
4. Popov
5. Sokolov
6. Lebedev
7. Kozlov
8. Novikov
9. Morozov
10. Petrov

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If you stripped away the Russian garments, I don't think you'd have to ask that question. :shock: :wink:

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Matroskin Kot!! I can think of oooooo soooo many witty comebacks for that one! :spiteful:

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Originally Posted by Basil77

Maybe one or two hundreds years later ethnic features will be eliminated completely, but now they are still exist. Here is some article about this: ... However, anthropologists made a verbal portrait of a Russian man ... They are said to be brown-haired persons of medium height, their eyes are either grey or blue.

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Basil!!! You have made me soooo very happy as "my" Dmitri does indeed have grey eyes and brown hair! :bravo:
And I must say, the grey eyes thing was one that my daughter asked for so I was not certain if it really would be a characteristic of a Russian or not.

If you do not know, I started him based off of things she wanted in her character; however, the name was my choosing and to make the story more interesting, based upon his name.... he ended up becoming Russian. Almost all of the other characters in the book are based off of real people she knows, like her friends (or enemies) from school, or people she has worked with, so that is much easier as I know them and she can help fill in gaps when I have questions about would so and so do this or behave like this or look like this. Dmitri has just been so much harder as I have NO reference.

It always amazes me that people believe anything depicted on television or in movies is suppose to represent reality.

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It always amazes me that people believe anything depicted on television or in movies is suppose to represent reality.

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You forgot books, newspaper and now the Internet....

Actually, it is because I DON'T believe that I came to MR and why I don't do well in the "real" world. :wacko:

Haksaw, have you ever seen the movie Network?

part 1
Howard Beale is 'Mad as Hell'
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/Movi...hnetwork2.html
English text is in video and also below the video

part 2
Howard Beale - The 'Mad Prophet of the Airwaves'
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/Movi...hnetwork3.html
English text is in video and also below the video

I think we all should give credit not only to Travel Channel, but to US mass media in general...It would be unfair if we forget about American textbooks...and newspapers, magazines, internet...And after that we are still surprised that 80% of Americans believe that bears walk on the streets of Russia and it is freezing cold in Russia all year round and Russians drink vodka instead of coke in russia?

I don’t think we can blame any media outlet for false reality. There are so many details weaved into specific cultures you really have to experience it yourself to fully understand what it’s truly about. People have to realize TV, newspaper, etc are businesses……they worry about the bottom line. You will be fed lies if the company feels the masses will find it interesting and “buy it” so to speak. It is up to people to make judgments based on personal experiences not what you see on TV. I may just be an optimist but, I believe the majority of people understand things you see and read are not true 98% of the time.

New show on 'Animal Planet' network, 'Wild Яussia', a nature program. I have to keep the motel lobby's TV on "non-offensive" shows. I ran across 2 the other night, Primorye and Caucasus regions. Great film work and some stunning scenery. My "Russian kids" were happy to watch and we talked about nature shows (it was a slooooow night). I always liked these shows. Some video links : http://animal.discovery.com/videos/wild-russia-videos/

I'd say to those who watch American TV -- be very careful before you believe what is said about ANY countries in Europe, but particularly Russia.

I was in a state of total shock after spending a few hours watching a US domestic channel called Fox News in a hotel room on a business trip. What was shown was some kind of surreal alternative universe which contained some grains of truth but were skewed, sensationalised and laced with political messages. It made me (finally) understand why Americans support foreign policy decisions that most Europeans would disagree with.

Some pic I've stumbled upon about American view on other countries:

:D
http://www.iamboredr.com/files/b0a624fffa17.jpg

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Originally Posted by Ramil

Some pic I've stumbled upon about American view on other countries:

:D
http://www.iamboredr.com/files/b0a624fffa17.jpg

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Ramil!!!

You found my map that I drew back in 7th grade!! I was wondering where it was.

Now, when you mate the ends there is also that BIG USSR in the middle of the RED colored area.

Looking back on it, my spelling and continent outlines were not as bad as I had remembered. I guess I did deserve that "A" after all! :ROFL:

The map was SO funny! :bravo:

When I was a kid there was an story circulating that went something like this: "When asked in a survey to point out the USA on a blind world map, 60% of American high school students pointed at the USSR -- they automatically assumed that the biggest country on the map must be the US." To us Swedish kids this defied belief... I don't know if the story is true or not, but it was certainly doing the rounds in Sweden.

For the record, I am neither a communist, nor a terrorist and my country has no oil whatsoever..... :wink:

Here is an old map of the Middle East (problem now resolved, I believe....) : http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/r...riendistan.jpg

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I'd say to those who watch American TV -- be very careful before you believe what is said about ANY countries in Europe, but particularly Russia.

I was in a state of total shock after spending a few hours watching a US domestic channel called Fox News in a hotel room on a business trip. What was shown was some kind of surreal alternative universe which contained some grains of truth but were skewed, sensationalised and laced with political messages. It made me (finally) understand why Americans support foreign policy decisions that most Europeans would disagree with.

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Oh please. Are you going to say NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, NY Times are not skewed? If I watched a TV channel and was in a state of total shock, I would change the channel. Call me funny. Maybe in Europe it's normal to have slanted news - I've never been there. To me, as a conservative citizen of the USA, if you consider FOX News skewed, maybe you are getting your new from a slanted source. To me they are the fairest ones out there. I do not rely on just FOX News and do not see at all your statement "What was shown was some kind of surreal alternative universe which contained some grains of truth but were skewed, sensationalised and laced with political messages.". Please enlightenment me with details. (Most liberals when confronted spew insults, curses, and never answer the question, but say that they are tolerant. Please spare me.) If you have news outlets that I should be getting my news from please share them with me.

Scott

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New show on 'Animal Planet' network, 'Wild Яussia', a nature program. I have to keep the motel lobby's TV on "non-offensive" shows. I ran across 2 the other night, Primorye and Caucasus regions. Great film work and some stunning scenery. My "Russian kids" were happy to watch and we talked about nature shows (it was a slooooow night). I always liked these shows. Some video links : http://animal.discovery.com/videos/wild-russia-videos/

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Nice, just set my DVR for a season pass for this show.

Thank you!

Scott

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Originally Posted by capecoddah

New show on 'Animal Planet' network, 'Wild Яussia', a nature program. I have to keep the motel lobby's TV on "non-offensive" shows. I ran across 2 the other night, Primorye and Caucasus regions. Great film work and some stunning scenery. My "Russian kids" were happy to watch and we talked about nature shows (it was a slooooow night). I always liked these shows. Some video links : http://animal.discovery.com/videos/wild-russia-videos/

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Nice, just set my DVR for a season pass for this show.

Thank you!

Scott

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Animal Planet is my favourite channel. As for the news - it's an article of faith - YOU DO NOT WATCH TV NEWS! Never. Not for any reason. Regardless of country. News can be found in Internet. I've got a label attached to my TV stating: "Там враг!" (There is enemy out there!).

Okay, so I figure a little turnaround is fair play! How Americans View Themselves!! At least we have a good sense of humor! Is there anyone from Cleveland on the forum (or Detroit???)? I have been there before and I don't even remember what it was like.

Make certain you watch BOTH videos and if you want to laugh even harder, read the comments that are posted on YouTube by viewers. :ROFL:

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The Cleveland Tourism Board gave me 14 million dollars about 8 months ago to make a promotional video to bring people to Cleveland. As usual, I waited till the last minute and I ended up having to shoot and edit it in about an hour yesterday afternoon. I probably should have invested more time.

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[video:3opnoxby]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY[/video:3opnoxby]

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So The Cleveland Board of Tourism was not happy with the first video that I turned in. In fact, they said that upon viewing it, three of the board members moved away. They insisted that I turn in a proper Cleveland tourism video, otherwise they will pursue litigation. So I was really planning on buckling down and giving it my all this time, but there was a "Rock of Love" marathon on VH1 last night that I didn't want to miss, so I cranked this video out in even less time than the first one. Roughly 35 minutes total.
Despite this, I'm rather pleased with how it turned out, and I think they will be too.

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[video:3opnoxby]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM[/video:3opnoxby]

@rockzmom
Yeah, Cleveland! I am sure it is/was famous for something?
But I guess the jobs moved abroad, huh? :cry: I hope they can find a new way forward for the city. :thumbs:

I read about some similar extreme cases in Russia - remote cities that were supported by USSR policies, but became ghost towns when the state no longer supported them.

[video:1byanmnb]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ2oXzrnti4[/video:1byanmnb]

How New Yorkers view the USA:
http://www.break.com/pictures/how-new-y ... 62297.html

Unfortunately, most Americans aren't too interested in geography. I never understood why. I love maps, have quite a few old nautical charts on my walls, a wold map behind my computer and a recent atlas at my feet.

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How New Yorkers view the USA:Unfortunately, most Americans aren't too interested in geography. I never understood why. I love maps, have quite a few old nautical charts on my walls, a wold map behind my computer and a recent atlas at my feet.

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capecoddah, that map is sooooooo true! :ROFL: I see a great new thread here.. the REAL "Maps of the World"

You know, if there had been more maps like that one and Ramil's, I might have actually been interested in geography when I was in school. :wink:

My mom always asks me to get a copy of the airport magazine for her when I am, duh, at the airport. So, when I was there at 3:20 in the morning I actually remembered and was surprised to see on the cover "MOSCOW, Spirited City." I filpped through the pages to find the article and was taken aback when I saw the opening lines...

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Vodka, that clear, no-nonsense spirit, is known the world over as Russia’s national drink. I grasp the delicate glass—this won’t be my first shot of the evening or, it turns out, my last—and toast my companion, Denis, before bringing the liquid to my lips. But this time I don’t try to savor it. I do what Denis has been coaching me to do all evening: I just drink it. It rolls down my throat.

“Balsa wood,” I say. “It tastes like the forest.” Bite of blini, sip of fresh beer. He nods. “Yes!” he says. “That’s true!”

This vodka tastes like birch groves. All of this registers because I have stopped trying to hold it in. You can’t analyze vodka. You can only experience it, and let it work on you.

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The next blue header is titled "Historical Hangover", then ""Cultural Cocktail" and finally ""Power Shot".

Is that really all there is to Moscow? Vodka, caviar and hangovers? Is this how "you" want your city to be promoted?

Here is a link to the article http://www.washingtonflyer.com/artic...pirited%20City