How bad is the word ***?

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November 29th, 2007, 01:40 AM
Автобус

How bad is the word ***?

Today I was talking to some native Russian speaking girls that I tutor and they asked me if I knew any swear words. And of course the first one that popped into my head from my Dictionary of Russian Obscenities was "Соси мой ***." And when I said this they were really surprised and told me to never say that. I couldn't tell if they were surprised because I knew it or because it was that bad. Keep in mind that these girls are in highschool so I wasn't talking to like a 5 year old.

So how bad is it?
November 29th, 2007, 02:48 AM
MasterAdmin

It's bad enough to scare highschool girls. Well, think for yourself. Even if you translate it into English, is that something that you would normally say?
November 29th, 2007, 03:32 AM
Автобус

Being a highschool boy, it is something I would say. Although, it must be pretty bad because they were freely using the word "сука." So it wasn't like they were afraid of swear words.
November 29th, 2007, 06:07 AM
Ramil

It's not the word you should use with strangers (unless they're pissing you off).
Sometimes, some constructions with this word can be used informally but such cases are rare and still such phrases are not to be used in a decent company (там ни.уя нет - there's nothing there).
November 29th, 2007, 08:03 AM
gRomoZeka

It's very rude, much worse than "сука".
November 29th, 2007, 08:48 AM
Ramil

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Originally Posted by gRomoZeka

It's very rude, much worse than "сука".

There are newances. In some cases сука can be more offensive. In the example I mentioned in the previous message or in the phrase like "ни х.я не видно" this word does not bear any insulting notes. It's just a bit rude.
November 29th, 2007, 10:02 AM
DDT

It rhymes with "Fooey" .....so it must be OK to say to your girlfriend's mother!!!
November 29th, 2007, 10:36 AM
Rtyom

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Originally Posted by DDT

It rhymes with "Fooey" .....so it must be OK to say to your girlfriend's mother!!!

There is "hooey" word, a synonym to "fooey", if I can trust my dicKtionary. :^)
November 29th, 2007, 02:34 PM
gRomoZeka

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramil

Quote:

Originally Posted by gRomoZeka

It's very rude, much worse than "сука".

There are newances. In some cases сука can be more offensive. In the example I mentioned in the previous message or in the phrase like "ни х.я не видно" this word does not bear any insulting notes. It's just a bit rude.

Sorry, I was in a haste and have no time to elaborate. ;) I'll do it now.
I believe "хуй" is more offensive than "сука" since "сука" CAN be used in decent company after all ("сука" = female dog, I've heard that in English "bitch" has the same meaning). :)

But you're right, there are nuances. The main nuance is when "хуй" is used in impersonal expresions ("ни х*я не видно", "х*ёво", etc.) or when speaker uses it with regard to himself ("я ох*ел"), it's not offensive (though it's still very vulgar).

But when "хуй" used with regard to another person, especially in imperative, it's not only very vulgar, but also very offensive. I'd say the phrase Автобус used to impress the girls with his knowledge of Russian was probably the worst thing he could come up with. If he says that phrase to the person he knows very little the result may be disastrous.

If personally would never talk to the person who said such thing to me in "real" conversation (and I'm not a prude, I do use "мат" sometimes... Just don't tell my Mom).
November 29th, 2007, 02:55 PM
Leof

Вспомнил замечательный случай. В одной из программ "Культурная революция" на канале "Культура" кто-то из присутствующих рассказал историю про то, как некий американский, кажется, миллионер завещал своё состояние своему пёсику, не удостоив свою молодую вдову такой милостью. Вдова не осталась в долгу - воспользовавшись законом, разрешающим подобные союзы, она вышла замуж за пса-миллионера, таким образом унаследовав состояние покойного супруга.

Когда рассказчик закончил, под дружный смех всех присутствующих герои программы и сам ведущий - бывший министр культуры, Михаил Ефимович Швыдкой, вместе воскикнули: "Вот сука!" :lol:

Perhaps they were surprized, because they knew it. I do not know. But it is not the best phrase to surprize anyone, especially the Russian girls.
The phrase itself isn't that surprizing at all.
November 29th, 2007, 03:11 PM
Rtyom

Re: How bad is the word Хуй?

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Originally Posted by Автобус

Today I was talking to some native Russian speaking girls that I tutor and they asked me if I knew any swear words. And of course the first one that popped into my head from my Dictionary of Russian Obscenities was "Соси мой хуй." And when I said this they were really surprised and told me to never say that. I couldn't tell if they were surprised because I knew it or because it was that bad. Keep in mind that these girls are in highschool so I wasn't talking to like a 5 year old.

So how bad is it?

It's one of the most offensive thing to hear in Russian. If you'd like to be smashed all over the ground while talking to any fist-happy male, keep trying with this phrase... So it's up to you to decied how BAD it is.

Strongly recommended to leave some vocab aside. :)
November 29th, 2007, 04:10 PM
Dogboy182

Bad enough that i'm surprised you wrote xуй and сука and didn't get banned.
November 29th, 2007, 04:18 PM
Ramil

Re: How bad is the word Хуй?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Автобус

Today I was talking to some native Russian speaking girls that I tutor and they asked me if I knew any swear words. And of course the first one that popped into my head from my Dictionary of Russian Obscenities was "Соси мой хуй." And when I said this they were really surprised and told me to never say that. I couldn't tell if they were surprised because I knew it or because it was that bad. Keep in mind that these girls are in highschool so I wasn't talking to like a 5 year old.

So how bad is it?

Say for yourself - if a Russian male approaches to English speaking girls and says 'suck my d!ck' - will they be impressed?
November 29th, 2007, 04:22 PM
Rtyom

Re: How bad is the word Хуй?

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Originally Posted by Ramil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Автобус

Today I was talking to some native Russian speaking girls that I tutor and they asked me if I knew any swear words. And of course the first one that popped into my head from my Dictionary of Russian Obscenities was "Соси мой хуй." And when I said this they were really surprised and told me to never say that. I couldn't tell if they were surprised because I knew it or because it was that bad. Keep in mind that these girls are in highschool so I wasn't talking to like a 5 year old.

So how bad is it?

Say for yourself - if a Russian male approaches to English speaking girls and says 'suck my d!ck' - will they be impressed?

To be ruder, I guess, he must say, "Suck my m**h**f**k**g dick".
November 29th, 2007, 04:23 PM
Lampada

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Originally Posted by Dogboy182

Bad enough that i'm surprised you wrote xуй and сука and didn't get banned.

Это литературная дискуссия на тему "Russian Obscenities" .
November 29th, 2007, 04:23 PM
Rtyom

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Originally Posted by Dogboy182

Bad enough that i'm surprised you wrote xуй and сука and didn't get banned.

I'm surprised you are still here, too. :)
November 29th, 2007, 04:23 PM
Автобус

Quote:

Originally Posted by gRomoZeka

But when "хуй" used with regard to another person, especially in imperative, it's not only very vulgar, but also very offensive. I'd say the phrase Автобус used to impress the girls with his knowledge of Russian was probably the worst thing he could come up with. If he says that phrase to the person he knows very little the result may be disastrous.

If personally would never talk to the person who said such thing to me in "real" conversation...

I don't think that I fully understood how bad it was until I read that last part. I feel like a little kid saying it and their mom/dad caught them. :oops: :cry:

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Originally Posted by Dogboy182

Bad enough that i'm surprised you wrote xуй and сука and didn't get banned.

When I saw that the first reply to this thread was from the Admin, I figured I would be.
November 29th, 2007, 04:24 PM
Dogboy182

I think suck my D* would still be more rude. If you add the MF it doesnt make it more rude, it just sounds more comical.
November 29th, 2007, 04:25 PM
Dogboy182

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rtyom

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Originally Posted by Dogboy182

Bad enough that i'm surprised you wrote xуй and сука and didn't get banned.

I'm surprised you are still here, too. :)

no because I used Latin X and Latin C so I didn't really type them, its just an illusion :)))

It really says Kshuy and Cooka!!
November 29th, 2007, 04:28 PM
Rtyom

BusBoy
I'm dumbstruck with seeing that you copy-pasted TATY's verbose mastepiece in your signature. :lol:

DogBoy
Ah, now, at a close look, I see that! :D
November 29th, 2007, 04:38 PM
Leof

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rtyom

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

Bad enough that i'm surprised you wrote xуй and сука and didn't get banned.

I'm surprised you are still here, too. :)

no because I used Latin X and Latin C so I didn't really type them, its just an illusion :)))

It really says Kshuy and Cooka!!

:lol:
December 2nd, 2007, 06:25 PM
giovanni

Quote:

Originally Posted by Автобус

Quote:

Originally Posted by gRomoZeka

But when "хуй" used with regard to another person, especially in imperative, it's not only very vulgar, but also very offensive. I'd say the phrase Автобус used to impress the girls with his knowledge of Russian was probably the worst thing he could come up with. If he says that phrase to the person he knows very little the result may be disastrous.

If personally would never talk to the person who said such thing to me in "real" conversation...

I don't think that I fully understood how bad it was until I read that last part. I feel like a little kid saying it and their mom/dad caught them. :oops: :cry:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

Bad enough that i'm surprised you wrote xуй and сука and didn't get banned.

When I saw that the first reply to this thread was from the Admin, I figured I would be.

yeah... i think the proper response in ANNYYY language when a (hot?) girl asks you if you know any swears, is to say "no, but if you want to teach me thats ok.." then you know where she stands about how open to be! If you go around saying susi ma huy... she will think you have no класс!!!
December 3rd, 2007, 02:44 AM
Автобус

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Originally Posted by giovanni

(hot?)

No, but her Serbian friend that was with her that learned Russian from her is pretty fair on the eyes.

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Originally Posted by giovanni

"no, but if you want to teach me thats ok.." then you know where she stands about how open to be! If you go around saying susi ma huy... she will think you have no класс!!!

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
December 3rd, 2007, 02:48 AM
giovanni

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Originally Posted by Автобус

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Originally Posted by giovanni

(hot?)

No, but her Serbian friend that was with her that learned Russian from her is pretty fair on the eyes.

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Originally Posted by giovanni

"no, but if you want to teach me thats ok.." then you know where she stands about how open to be! If you go around saying susi ma huy... she will think you have no класс!!!

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

ahhh serbians... :roll: (only did this because there was no drooling smiley..)

and how can you find a russian that is not attractive? If they are under 20 i have not seen this! The only russian women i have not been attracted to are either old, or have a mole and a mustash...

and no problem... its basic female respect, and they love it!
December 3rd, 2007, 03:00 AM
kalinka_vinnie

There are plenty of non-beautiful Russian girls... have you seen Russia's version of "Ugly Betty"? :lol:
December 3rd, 2007, 03:05 AM
giovanni

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Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

There are plenty of non-beautiful Russian girls... have you seen Russia's version of "Ugly Betty"? :lol:

no... probably better i dont.. I dont want my image of russian women to be shattered... :lol:
December 3rd, 2007, 03:28 AM
xRoosterx

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Originally Posted by giovanni

[and how can you find a russian that is not attractive?

Take the metro. :lol:
December 3rd, 2007, 03:29 AM
giovanni

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Originally Posted by xRoosterx

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Originally Posted by giovanni

[and how can you find a russian that is not attractive?

Take the metro. :lol:

aha... i did! all throughout moscow!!! maybe i just had a good day or something, because damn, i couldnt stop looking!
December 3rd, 2007, 07:31 AM
Leof

The difference in typical appearances we are used to seeing every day plays a role, too. When I look at Italian or Greek girls,I would never in my whole life think to see such beautiful smiles and eyes. If I hadn't already had the stereotype in my mind_that Italian women all have that explosive character, I would swear that_Italian men are the luckiest males on_Earth!

Please give me a bunch of corrections for the above. :?

edited: низкий поклон ЭксРустерсу за помощь в исправлении ошибок!
December 3rd, 2007, 04:15 PM
Автобус

Quote:

Originally Posted by giovanni

and how can you find a russian that is not attractive? If they are under 20 i have not seen this! The only russian women i have not been attracted to are either old, or have a mole and a mustash...

I think the same about Russians, she's actually Turkish but was raised in Russia.
December 3rd, 2007, 06:50 PM
xRoosterx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leof

The difference of typical appearances we are used to see every day must be plays its role too. When I looked at Italian girls or at Greek girls I thought I never in whole my life have met such a huge number of amusing smiles and sparking eyes. If I hadn't a stereotype in my mind which says that Italian women have a kind of explosive character, I would swear that the Italian men are the luckiest male creatures on the Earth!

Please give me a bunch of corrections for the above. :?

Я бы сказал:
"The difference in typical appearances we are used to seeing every day plays a role, too. When I look at Italian or Greek girls, I would never in my whole life think to see such beautiful smiles and eyes. If I hadn't already had the stereotype in mind that Italian women all have that explosive character, I would swear that Italian men are the luckiest males on Earth!"
December 4th, 2007, 07:51 PM
giovanni

Quote:

Originally Posted by Автобус

Quote:

Originally Posted by giovanni

and how can you find a russian that is not attractive? If they are under 20 i have not seen this! The only russian women i have not been attracted to are either old, or have a mole and a mustash...

I think the same about Russians, she's actually Turkish but was raised in Russia.

thats like my friends too bro! My friends were born in turkey, but they all moved to russia when they were really young. But they speak turkish because of their parents. But they always confuse me, because half the time they speak russian, and the other half they speak turkish!
December 5th, 2007, 08:06 AM
Dogboy182

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Originally Posted by giovanni

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Originally Posted by Автобус

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Originally Posted by giovanni

and how can you find a russian that is not attractive? If they are under 20 i have not seen this! The only russian women i have not been attracted to are either old, or have a mole and a mustash...

I think the same about Russians, she's actually Turkish but was raised in Russia.

thats like my friends too bro! My friends were born in turkey, but they all moved to russia when they were really young. But they speak turkish because of their parents. But they always confuse me, because half the time they speak russian, and the other half they speak turkish!

Do they look like тимати?
December 5th, 2007, 07:52 PM
giovanni

actually... yes! and they love his music... something is going on here! :?
December 6th, 2007, 10:39 AM
Dogboy182

You should see the movie ЖаRа.

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