Or is Chocolate considered dangerous?
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Or is Chocolate considered dangerous?
По моему мнению I don't think it will make it.
But if you want to try, pack it well. I would use bubble wrap, it will insulate against the heat.
you wanna get some anti-russian postal worker wrap too :wink:
Hehe. Very true. Can you buy that in an aerosol -- like Batman's anti-shark repellent?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt. Columbo
A girl from Israil once sent me a pack of about 40-50 bars. So I'm sure it's possible.
It is possible, the fear of Russian postal workers stealing chocolate is exaggerated. The rumors were set by the Russian Chocolate Producers Association (RCPA) to make Russians buy more fatherland chocolate.
My question would be "why"???Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordan
The chocolate in the FSU, especially Czech, is often much better quality than in Western Europe.
Please don't misunderstand, your thoughts are kind... but chocolate shipped from Belgium will probably arrive as a "melted mess" in the heat :lol: ... if it arrives not confiscated. :wink:
If your friend lives in a major city, consider a local "courier" service to buy high-quality chocolate locally for personal delivery to your friend. For example, there are now huge markets in Petersburg, where I can buy high-quality food, candy, wines for less cost than in Madrid. 8)
I had some difficulties with the Russian post when sent gifts abroad. One of them was exactly about a chocolate bar, it was forbidden to be added to the letter in the envelope. Within Russia, nobody cares what you put in the parcel, you only have to put your signature that there is no forbidden stuff.
I can understand the point about food, but the rule about paper things is killing me.
Do you mean there always must be some rational economical reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dobry
A letter with a chocolate bar within is not a LETTER.Quote:
Originally Posted by Indra
If you want to send a letter with sweet stuff put there some sugar powder instead.
:lol:
Alware,Quote:
Originally Posted by Alware
No, I am a very romantic person.
And as you are Siberian I sense you value the economy and efficiency of effort... and the romantic difference between a ball of non-edible chocolate mush in a brown envelope, with a love-note completely disintegrated in the chocolate "goo"...
Or a nice, pretty box of chocolates.
Let us think of this... 100 Euros for a chocolate ball of ugly mush internationally delivered... :?: or 30 Euros for a red box of fresh, tasty chocolates, with a romantic message :?:
Alware, you do the romantic math. :wink:
You are right, it was stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alware
On the other hand, you cannot send,say, a book and other things together, because books (calendars, booklets) are considered "paper sendings" that cost less ("book rate"). THAT is really stupid. I agreed to pay more in order to send all the things together, i. e. to pay for the book as for other, not-paper goods, but the post worker refused.
30euro, 100 euro ...50cents...Does it matter if a gentleman is intended to send something to a lady?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dobry
And could you kindly specify what does being a Siberian have to do with valuing smth?
It was the matter of the post worker's IQ but not the regulationsQuote:
Originally Posted by Indra
You are reacting personally and too agressively now... please, relax... there is no offense by me... My meaning was that most of my Russian, and Siberian friends are not wealthy... they are very careful with their money... and for my close Russian friends, whom I trust with my life... their lives, their money is controlled by economy and efficiency with money... they are very careful with their money. I must also be very careful with my money... I am not a wealthy man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alware
Maybe you are very wealthy, and so the spending and control of money is not as important for you.
For me it is very important... I would give my world to my true love if I could... give her every jewel she wants... but then I would have no money to buy food for us to eat. Do you understand?
If you have so much money, that you are very wealthy, then you are a fortunate man.
But do not challenge and disrespect men that, because of their lack of wealth, cannot give the world to a woman.
For a man who is poor... 30 Euros... 100 Euros... very big difference.
And no, "Siberian" has nothing to do with it... but my Siberian friends would be hurt that you are asking a stranger such questions. Such financial discussions, and a person's financial abilities, would not be asked, unless between very close friends, in trust. And my Siberian friends are suffering much from the current economy. Do not shove this in my face. :cry:
He he. Same old story. That was pretty neutral question. But I'm sorry if you felt that way :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Dobry
I didn't say anything about money in the first place. What I meant was that if a young man wants to send a chcolate let him just send a chocolate. I bet cost and quality were the last things he would think about. And finally we don't know nothing.Quote:
My meaning was that most of my Russian friends are not wealthy... they are very careful with their money... anf for my close Russian friends, who I trust with my life... their lives, their money is controlled by economy and efficiency with money... they are very careful with their money. I must also be very careful with my money... I am not a wealthy man.
I'm not wealthy, but sometimes I forget about it and never regret of it later. (I hope you understand what i mean here)Quote:
Maybe you are wealthy, and so the spending of money is not as important for you. For me it is very important... and I would giva my world to my true love if I could. If you can, then you are a fortunate man.
I never did that.Quote:
But do not challenge men that cannot because of their lack of wealth.
Agreed.Quote:
For a man who is poor... 30 Euros... 100 Euros... very big change.
What questions?Quote:
And no, "Siberian" has nothing to do with it... but my Siberian friends would be hurt that you are asking a stranger such questions. Such financial discussions, and a person's financial abilities, would not be asked, unless between very close friends, in trust and friendship.
Alware,
"Same old story"... not sure what you mean. If you want to PM me and explain, please do. I am aggressive, but I'm also reasonable and I prefer debate and discussion. But, if you begin aggression with me... yes, I will be aggressive with you. I sensed you began aggression. Sorry, 'big guy'... this is my personality and my 'Irish instincts' emerged. :lol:
No aggression from me now... relax.
"Questions" referred to you questioning me why I mentioned Siberia... I pointed to Siberia because you state in your profile that you are Siberian...you raise the question... the same as I state I'm an American.
I mentioned Siberia because you indicated a philosophy of "ignore the cost... whatever the cost, ship Belgian chocolate, whatever the girl wants!" (not literal from Alware, this is only my impression) This is very noble, but not realistic in the current economy of Russia.
I have sources within the Russian Customs system... I asked one, and she agreed this would be a silly gift to send. The Belgian chocolate would probably be ruined (big chocolate mass), stolen or confiscated.
It would cost Mordan many Rubles to send, and the package would probably never arrive.
I suggested another option, which is local courier service. And, personally, I think Russian chocolate is very tasty. It can be delivered reliably, efficiently, with a romantic message... for far less Rubles.
You criticize me for this suggestion. I don't understand why. Especially from someone who's living in Russia and understands how things work within the system. Efficiency is a prized skill. I lived in Russia for awhile, so I do have some knowledge of the 'system'... and many 'mistakes' are made... many packages "lost".
I've used Russian professional couriers (FedEx, DHL, etc.) many times, and I have NEVER had any problems... packages always accurately delivered and on-time. But, they are very expensive. More expensive than the chocolate.
If Mordan tries to send a chocolate bar through Russian post... it will probably never arrive... if it does arrive, it will be a melted, mass of non-eatable chocolate. This is the truth of the current situation.
I'm giving Mordan strong, good advice, if he wants to send a special gift to someone he cares for... a girl he likes very much.
My friends throughout Russia, I am sure would strongly agree with my advice.
On a side-note... I have tried having food gifts shipped to me in Spain, from America... very bad idea. Every attempt has been disaster.
Use commercial parcel service such as DHL or UPS (they operate in Russia and guarantee the delivery).
Are you kidding? Belgium Chocolate is simply the best ever. I live in a small country but we have that and ... beers.
it is a simple gift and has no romance connotation... jeez
Seriously, i was just asking if the customs accepts food in parcels to enter Russia.
If I remember correctly; you can't send fruits to the US.
rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Ramil
EMSQuote:
Originally Posted by Mordan
I personnaly use it being abroad or in russia sending stuff abroad.
http://www.russianpost.ru/resp_engin...MS/MessagesInt
A 1 kilo parcel to belgium will cost 1500 rur about $50
:)
DHL would be a bit mor expensive and a bit faster
Mordan,Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordan
You misunderstand...
Consider the time of year (hot)... delay in Customs for probably at least a week or two... (ugh!)... and the chocolate will not be shipped "chilled"... are you getting my meaning??? Trust me my friend (I know we're not friends, I'm using it 'loosely'). Why spend so much to send such a special gift... and the gift will arrive ruined? I'm very sorry... I'm trying to help you. <very sad, with tears> I am a romantic, and I want to help.
Find other special gifts to give, my friend.
Mrs Scotcher and her mum regularly send each other chocolate between Blighty and Russia without any trouble, other than the occassional dent in the corner of a box.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alware
No romance at all? You didn't make that clear. :lol:
Fine, ship as much as you want then... spend the money for kilo parcel... I thought this was for someone you loved... sorry, didn't understand, you didn't make it clear or explain...
Just don't be surprised if it arrives melted or ruined in the heat... time of year, and it's not the airline's fault. Yep, if that's what your plan is, and they must have the chocolate immediately... then DHL in Europe I think is your best option.
Mordan, where did I get the idea that this had some romantic connection... or was it just me? No romance at all?? :lol:
Please make this clearer next time, so I don't have tears and 'misty eyes' about your 'special gifts'. :wink:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Make sure you send dark (bitter) chocolate in a hard box :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dobry
You're fortunate... I've got opposite stories straight from Russian Customs officers... however, usually stuff coming from the U.S. <shrug>Quote:
Originally Posted by scotcher
he heQuote:
Originally Posted by Dobry
stories straight from me (about stuff coming from the U.S. ) will probly be different :wink:
:lol: wise wordsQuote:
Originally Posted by Alware
I still can't understand why he would spend all the money to ship Belgian chocolate, through DHL, when I can go to several places in Petersburg or Moscow and buy it cheaper.
<heavy sigh>
They usually are... very different stories. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alware
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Dobry
:lol:
Mordan,Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordan
My mistake then... I thought there was a special girl you were communicating with, that we had discussed on the forum. I thought this person was someone whom you were "working" on developing a relationship with.
There is no one? Sorry.
Dobry
:(
If you really want to send something to a especial person, the distance and cost don't matter, what really matters is that your gift arrives to that person. However, trouble at customs is something that you should always take into account to avoid that the recipient pays taxes to free her parcel (I'm sure you won't want the recipient to pay). Maybe you would like ask or open a thread related to taxes in the Russian customs. DHL is a good and fast service but I've had problems with them at customs and sometimes recipients had to pay a very high tax (as high as the cost of the good... and this would be too unfair if it's a gift what you are sending). Another option would be the normal mail service but you'd have to pack it very well isolating it to avoid damages.
Well have a good day and I wish you good luck with your parcel.
C
Can you find "Galler" chocolate in Moscow, Ekaterinburg, Samara and Novosibirk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dobry
Mordan, try: http://food.belgianshop.com/acatalog/Galler.html
They're used to international shipping, if anyone can help you, it must be them. :wink:
Bonne chance! :wink:
I think the safest way to get your gift to Russia is to use some kind of delivery service like DHL.
Honestly, Mordan, I do not know. I have never tasted "Galler" chocolate... I have never seen, nor heard of "Galler" chocolate in all my travels, and the different places I've lived in the world... so, I must admit that I know nothing of "Galler" chocolate...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordan
I know there are many foods and candies from around the world and Europe, that I can easily find in Moscow and Petersburg, but very difficult or impossible to find in Chicago or New York.
Modern Russia. 8) <shrug>
...the only chocolate I have in my room now, is "Melkesjokolade"... Norwegian chocolate from the "Freia" company in Norway... my Norwegian girlfriend began me on it. :wink:
Plese, don't let me stop you from sending 20 kilos of "Galler" chocolate into Eastern Russia. You are paying for it, not me. :roll: :wink:
And again, I am sorry... I thought this was a special gift for a girlfriend/special love.
I did not realize this was for friends wanting to try Belgian chocolate.
DHL ... yes, I agree, use DHL.
You are in luck! That is the BEST chocolate in the world!!!! I bought tons of it on my way back to the US. Surprised they didn't ban it as a liquid (at the right temperature, it IS a liquid!!!)!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dobry
You are right!!! This chocolate is GREAT!!! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie